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“Both suffering and joy pursue us. Once you thought you could evade suffering, but now you know better, and you want to be prepared. When in the middle of distress, you want to know how to deal with it. You want to know how to live a meaningful life, no matter the challenges. Meaning births joy. Where is the meaning?”